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Post by elorens on Apr 26, 2022 9:40:54 GMT 12
I have an early Genalex console, probably dating from about 1932, which I’m trying to identify. There is a number 100-921 stamped on the chassis, and a plate gives the valve lineup as 224,235,227,224,247, and 280. One clue is that the 235 tetrode first appeared in March 1931. A difficulty is that in 1932 Genalex produced a large number of models, both TRF and superhets, and a lot of these were consoles.
The set doesn’t currently work and I don’t have a circuit diagram. It would help if I could clearly identify it as either TRF or superhet. You’d think that would be straightforward, but no! Someone suggested looking for IF cans. But another radio I have which definitely IS a TRF, has the coils in round metal cans, with connections to top caps etc. So my question is, can anyone identify a sure way of telling if a radio is TRF or superhet? My best effort so far is to try to detect the signal from the local oscillator, but in this case that has obvious limitations. I know, in the end I can trace out the circuit, but I’m hoping for a smarter approach. Maybe the valve lineup carries a clue? Thanks for any insights! Lawrence
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Post by Philconut on Apr 26, 2022 21:46:57 GMT 12
Have a look at how the 227 is connected. It may be the local oscillator in which case there will be wires from the plate, pin2 & probably cathode, pin4 to a coil which will also have a connection to the tuning gang. Or it may be the 1st audio amp with the 224 being the detector feeding it.
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Post by Philconut on Apr 26, 2022 21:48:22 GMT 12
Oops, pressed the wrong button. If the former, the set will be a superhet.
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Post by elorens on Apr 29, 2022 22:19:46 GMT 12
Have a look at how the 227 is connected. It may be the local oscillator in which case there will be wires from the plate, pin2 & probably cathode, pin4 to a coil which will also have a connection to the tuning gang. Or it may be the 1st audio amp with the 224 being the detector feeding it. Thanks, will follow up on this. L
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Post by Peter Walsham on Apr 29, 2022 22:38:21 GMT 12
Another hint would be to see if the interstage coils have individual trimmer capacitors, or if they're being tuned by the tuning capacitor. If the coils have trimmer capacitors, then it's almost certain that the set will be a superhet. If you see no sign of these trimmer capacitors, I think it would be safe to assume that the set is a TRF.
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